Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/03/Category:Tanner VanValkenburg

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Category:Tanner VanValkenburg[edit]

Commons is not your personal photo album. Quakewoody (talk) 13:07, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Quakewoody: What is that "your"? CfD is not intended to address one particular person, but for discussion of the community, regardless of who uploaded the image or who created the category. Categories are intended to group files related to the same item. Deleting a category is only possible if there is no content in it and there is no reason to expect to use it in the future. If 5 photos of the same person are uploaded in the project, then it makes sense to group them into one category.
In the case of a proposal to delete individual images, the usability of such images for the purposes of the project should decide. This usability may result either from the significance of the person depicted or from the usability of another aspect of the image. Both of these aspects can be discussed. During a quick googling, it seems that this person is not completely unknown and has some publicity in his country. As for the theme of the photos, a photo of a diver with a turtle or a photo of a man getting out of a small helicopter can be in scope, even if the depict a completely unknown anonymous person, regardless of who and why uploaded these photos to the project.
P.S.: It seems a bit suspicious to me that someone who has not even set up his own user page in this project (and systematically deleting discussions on his personal discussion page, and having just 1 his own upload file) is systematically involved in deletion proposals in this way. What can be his experience with the categorization system and project scope? --ŠJů (talk) 15:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I did not mean to imply that you were at fault or did anything wrong. But, the uploader and his cross wiki promotional material did cause you to create a seemingly legitimate category. However, in the process of thoroughness, the category should be purged with the rest of the material.
And, just to note - what does my editing history have to do with the discussion? Quakewoody (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, can everyone please remember to adopt a civil tone and discuss the key issue of the category title without criticizing other users? That's not that CFD is about.
Second, since there are currently no images in this category, it's hard for me to understand what's going on. Did someone remove them from the category or have they been deleted? If there is no content that currently fits here, we can delete the category and recreate it in the future if legitimate content is uploaded. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Quakewoody and Themightyquill: It seems that all the 5 images (listed here) were deleted by a process of quick deletion, ie as a "revenge" for the uploader's aggressive and and parasitic self-promotion, without careful consideration of whether the person depicted is publicly known and whether the theme and composition of the photos (person sitting in a small helicopter, a diver swimming next to a turtle, etc.) can be of some benefit to the project. We have many similar images with anonymous divers or anonymous pilots, which no one proposes to delete. Is revenge for self-promotion a sufficient reason? As regards the person depicted, he is obviously pushing for his self-promotion, however, thanks to this, it is not completely anonymous and is traceable in public space ([1]). Is it appropriate to delete such images in a quick delete process without proper discussion? In general, it is welcome that people also contribute to the project with pictures of their city, village, region, workplace, or from their field of work or hobby. There is always a degree of "self-promotion" in this, and we need to consider whether such images can have any value for others.
The personal level plays only a factual role here: just as it is suspicious if someone contributes to the project only once on one topic in which he has his personal interest, it is equally suspicious if someone who has a minimum of uploads and a short editing history, is too involved in deleting content. I'm not sure if such an "interproject annihilation stalking" is what should be tolerated in the Commons project. The benefits of images should be judged regardless of who uploaded them and why. --ŠJů (talk) 12:27, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted as empty. The category can be recreated if the images are undeleted or re-uploaded. User complaints can be lodged at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems. -- Themightyquill (talk) 13:31, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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